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  returns - AIEi Sydney, December 7–8 — the first AIEi run alongside NeurIPS
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# How AI is changing Software Engineering: A Conversation with Gergely Orosz, @pragmaticengineer

Gergely Orosz is a formar Uber and Skyscanner engineer and is the author of https://www.engguidebook.com/ and https://www.pragmaticengineer.com/ , the #1 software/AI engineering newsletter on Substack, built from scratch in Amsterdam but read by millions around the world. Speaker info: - https://x.com/GergelyOrosz - https://nl.linkedin.com/company/the-pragmatic-engineer Timestamps: 0:00 What is token maxing? 5:27 Is AI-driven productivity worth the hype? 12:42 How the role of the software engineer is changing 14:45 Are engineers now engineering managers for AI? 17:31 Large tech infrastructure and internal AI tooling 20:41 Why companies like Shopify invest heavily in AI churn 22:56 Growing The Pragmatic Engineer and finding product-market fit --- Watch along with the corrected transcript, summary, timestamps and resources on this talk's official AIE page: https://ai.engineer/talks/CS5Cmz5FssI-software-engineering-ai Join our upcoming AI Engineer conferences (see https://ai.engineer landing page): - AIEi Shanghai, November 5–6 — the first for meeting top Chinese labs and engineers - AIE CODE in SF, November 10–12 — the top AI Coding conference returns - AIEi Sydney, December 7–8 — the first AIEi run alongside NeurIPS 2026 in Sydney ---

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