--- schema: 1 type: video title: 'The New Application Layer - Malte Ubl, CTO Vercel' description: >- AI engineering is the legitimate successor to web development and the mainstream discipline that will define the next decade. Drawing on Vercel's own experience, Malte explores what it means to build infrastructure and applications in a world where agents are both the builders and users of software. In a future where the major AI labs commoditize, the real value will sit with the engineers building on top. The application layer is where the innovation happens, and AI engineers are the ones who will shape it. Speaker info: - https://x.com/cramforce - https://www.linkedin.com/in/malteubl/ --- Watch along with the corrected transcript, summary, timestamps and resources on this talk's official AIE page: https://ai.engineer/talks/XKup1pj-34M-the-new-application-layer Join our upcoming AI Engineer conferences (see https://ai.engineer landing page): - AIEi Shanghai, November 5–6 — the first for meeting top Chinese labs and engineers - AIE CODE in SF, November 10–12 — the top AI Coding conference returns - AIEi Sydney, December 7–8 — the first AIEi run alongside NeurIPS 2026 in Sydney --- canonical: >- https://liquidgold.cc/channel/aidotengineer/explore/video/the-new-application-layer-malte-ubl-cto-vercel-d18cdf995b1f markdown: >- https://liquidgold.cc/channel/aidotengineer/video/the-new-application-layer-malte-ubl-cto-vercel-d18cdf995b1f.md llms: null parent: 'https://liquidgold.cc/channel/aidotengineer.md' channel: aidotengineer updated: '2026-10-24T15:10:26.290Z' language: null children: [] videoId: XKup1pj-34M durationSeconds: 1132 publishedAt: '2026-04-20T15:15:06.000Z' searchChunks: - ordinal: 0 text: null startSeconds: 152 endSeconds: 242 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=152' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 1 text: null startSeconds: 152 endSeconds: 242 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=152' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 2 text: null startSeconds: 254 endSeconds: 332 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=254' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 3 text: null startSeconds: 342 endSeconds: 430 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=342' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 4 text: null startSeconds: 332 endSeconds: 342 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=332' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 5 text: null startSeconds: 441 endSeconds: 575 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=441' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 6 text: null startSeconds: 441 endSeconds: 575 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=441' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 7 text: null startSeconds: 441 endSeconds: 575 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=441' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 8 text: null startSeconds: 575 endSeconds: 587 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=575' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 9 text: null startSeconds: 587 endSeconds: 675 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=587' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 10 text: null startSeconds: 587 endSeconds: 675 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=587' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 11 text: null startSeconds: 685 endSeconds: 774 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=685' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 12 text: null startSeconds: 685 endSeconds: 774 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=685' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 13 text: null startSeconds: 785 endSeconds: 872 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=785' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 14 text: null startSeconds: 785 endSeconds: 872 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=785' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 15 text: null startSeconds: 785 endSeconds: 872 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=785' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 16 text: null startSeconds: 872 endSeconds: 882 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=872' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 17 text: null startSeconds: 882 endSeconds: 971 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=882' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 18 text: null startSeconds: 882 endSeconds: 971 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=882' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 19 text: null startSeconds: 983 endSeconds: 1132 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=983' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 20 text: null startSeconds: 983 endSeconds: 1132 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=983' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 21 text: null startSeconds: 983 endSeconds: 1132 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/XKup1pj-34M?t=983' heldReason: rights --- # The New Application Layer - Malte Ubl, CTO Vercel AI engineering is the legitimate successor to web development and the mainstream discipline that will define the next decade. Drawing on Vercel's own experience, Malte explores what it means to build infrastructure and applications in a world where agents are both the builders and users of software. In a future where the major AI labs commoditize, the real value will sit with the engineers building on top. The application layer is where the innovation happens, and AI engineers are the ones who will shape it. Speaker info: - https://x.com/cramforce - https://www.linkedin.com/in/malteubl/ --- Watch along with the corrected transcript, summary, timestamps and resources on this talk's official AIE page: https://ai.engineer/talks/XKup1pj-34M-the-new-application-layer Join our upcoming AI Engineer conferences (see https://ai.engineer landing page): - AIEi Shanghai, November 5–6 — the first for meeting top Chinese labs and engineers - AIE CODE in SF, November 10–12 — the top AI Coding conference returns - AIEi Sydney, December 7–8 — the first AIEi run alongside NeurIPS 2026 in Sydney --- Canonical: https://liquidgold.cc/channel/aidotengineer/explore/video/the-new-application-layer-malte-ubl-cto-vercel-d18cdf995b1f · Channel: [AI Engineer](https://liquidgold.cc/channel/aidotengineer.md) > Search chunk text is held until public-source provenance is verified. ## Document chunks > Missing: no stored document chunks are available.