--- schema: 1 type: video title: 'The New Primitives: Building AI Native Software — Kwindla Kramer, Daily' description: >- In 1945 Vannevar Bush described document scanning, OCR, speech to text, hypertext, search engines, a head mounted camera, and voice interfaces, in a single essay, before any of it existed. Kwindla Hultman Kramer uses As We May Think to set up the uncomfortable part: he was a baby programmer in 1995 writing HTML by hand and web servers in C, as excited about web pages then as he is about agents now. Web pages turned out to be a primitive, not a destination. His argument is that agents are the web page of this era, and the thing worth building is the AI native software that comes after. The tour through the decades is the evidence. Each one had a job: programming languages to carry human intent into the machine, interactivity in the 1960s, abstractions for scale in the 1970s, then the personal computer. VisiCalc is the example he keeps returning to, because it did not put accountants out of work, it made vastly more accounting possible and invented categories of work nobody could have described when a screen of calculations took a room full of people. He offers that as the reply to the mass unemployment worry. The talk closes on Gradient Bang, a massively multiplayer game with an LLM at the core of every interaction and hundreds of inference calls in flight, built specifically to exercise the primitives he thinks come next: asynchronous non blocking context compression, long running subagents that share context, progressive skills loading, dynamic interface generation, and conversational voice. Speaker info: - https://x.com/kwindla - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kwkramer/ - https://machine-theory.com/ - https://github.com/pipecat-ai/pipecat Timestamps: 0:00 - Daily, Pipecat, and what comes after agents 1:31 - What Vannevar Bush predicted in 1945 2:13 - Nadella on multimodel harnesses 4:12 - Agents are the web pages of 1995 5:25 - From the abacus to the stored program computer 6:46 - The 1950s: getting human intent into the machine 7:30 - The 1960s: interactivity, Sketchpad, and Star Trek 8:51 - The 1970s: abstractions that scale 9:32 - VisiCalc and why it did not replace accountants 10:49 - Knowledge Navigator, Apple's 1987 prediction 12:46 - The web was multimodal from the start 13:24 - Minority Report, Iron Man, and building it for real 17:10 - Cloud, then agents, then what 18:24 - Knowledge Navigator rebuilt on real technology 19:38 - Gradient Bang and the primitives it exercises 20:52 - Closing --- Watch along with the corrected transcript, summary, timestamps and resources on this talk's official AIE page: https://ai.engineer/talks/LZuWZRze3MU-the-new-primitives-building-ai-native-software Join our upcoming AI Engineer conferences (see https://ai.engineer landing page): - AIEi Shanghai, November 5–6 — the first for meeting top Chinese labs and engineers - AIE CODE in SF, November 10–12 — the top AI Coding conference returns - AIEi Sydney, December 7–8 — the first AIEi run alongside NeurIPS 2026 in Sydney --- canonical: >- https://liquidgold.cc/channel/aidotengineer/explore/video/the-new-primitives-building-ai-native-software-kwin-a6b0e760809e markdown: >- https://liquidgold.cc/channel/aidotengineer/video/the-new-primitives-building-ai-native-software-kwin-a6b0e760809e.md llms: null parent: 'https://liquidgold.cc/channel/aidotengineer.md' channel: aidotengineer updated: '2026-10-24T05:46:52.083Z' language: null children: [] videoId: LZuWZRze3MU durationSeconds: 1274 publishedAt: '2026-08-07T23:53:33.000Z' searchChunks: - ordinal: 0 text: null startSeconds: 24 endSeconds: 102 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/LZuWZRze3MU?t=24' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 1 text: null startSeconds: 102 endSeconds: 113 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/LZuWZRze3MU?t=102' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 2 text: null startSeconds: 137 endSeconds: 148 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/LZuWZRze3MU?t=137' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 3 text: null startSeconds: 148 endSeconds: 257 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/LZuWZRze3MU?t=148' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 4 text: null startSeconds: 257 endSeconds: 271 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/LZuWZRze3MU?t=257' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 5 text: null startSeconds: 271 endSeconds: 336 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/LZuWZRze3MU?t=271' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 6 text: null startSeconds: 348 endSeconds: 416 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/LZuWZRze3MU?t=348' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 7 text: null startSeconds: 416 endSeconds: 426 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/LZuWZRze3MU?t=416' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 8 text: null startSeconds: 469 endSeconds: 534 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/LZuWZRze3MU?t=469' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 9 text: null startSeconds: 546 endSeconds: 579 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/LZuWZRze3MU?t=546' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 10 text: null startSeconds: 590 endSeconds: 657 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/LZuWZRze3MU?t=590' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 11 text: null startSeconds: 657 endSeconds: 669 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/LZuWZRze3MU?t=657' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 12 text: null startSeconds: 669 endSeconds: 775 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/LZuWZRze3MU?t=669' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 13 text: null startSeconds: 808 endSeconds: 821 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/LZuWZRze3MU?t=808' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 14 text: null startSeconds: 1030 endSeconds: 1044 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/LZuWZRze3MU?t=1030' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 15 text: null startSeconds: 1044 endSeconds: 1111 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/LZuWZRze3MU?t=1044' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 16 text: null startSeconds: 1111 endSeconds: 1122 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/LZuWZRze3MU?t=1111' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 17 text: null startSeconds: 1178 endSeconds: 1189 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/LZuWZRze3MU?t=1178' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 18 text: null startSeconds: 1189 endSeconds: 1273 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/LZuWZRze3MU?t=1189' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 19 text: null startSeconds: 1189 endSeconds: 1273 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/LZuWZRze3MU?t=1189' heldReason: rights --- # The New Primitives: Building AI Native Software — Kwindla Kramer, Daily In 1945 Vannevar Bush described document scanning, OCR, speech to text, hypertext, search engines, a head mounted camera, and voice interfaces, in a single essay, before any of it existed. Kwindla Hultman Kramer uses As We May Think to set up the uncomfortable part: he was a baby programmer in 1995 writing HTML by hand and web servers in C, as excited about web pages then as he is about agents now. Web pages turned out to be a primitive, not a destination. His argument is that agents are the web page of this era, and the thing worth building is the AI native software that comes after. The tour through the decades is the evidence. Each one had a job: programming languages to carry human intent into the machine, interactivity in the 1960s, abstractions for scale in the 1970s, then the personal computer. VisiCalc is the example he keeps returning to, because it did not put accountants out of work, it made vastly more accounting possible and invented categories of work nobody could have described when a screen of calculations took a room full of people. He offers that as the reply to the mass unemployment worry. The talk closes on Gradient Bang, a massively multiplayer game with an LLM at the core of every interaction and hundreds of inference calls in flight, built specifically to exercise the primitives he thinks come next: asynchronous non blocking context compression, long running subagents that share context, progressive skills loading, dynamic interface generation, and conversational voice. Speaker info: - https://x.com/kwindla - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kwkramer/ - https://machine-theory.com/ - https://github.com/pipecat-ai/pipecat Timestamps: 0:00 - Daily, Pipecat, and what comes after agents 1:31 - What Vannevar Bush predicted in 1945 2:13 - Nadella on multimodel harnesses 4:12 - Agents are the web pages of 1995 5:25 - From the abacus to the stored program computer 6:46 - The 1950s: getting human intent into the machine 7:30 - The 1960s: interactivity, Sketchpad, and Star Trek 8:51 - The 1970s: abstractions that scale 9:32 - VisiCalc and why it did not replace accountants 10:49 - Knowledge Navigator, Apple's 1987 prediction 12:46 - The web was multimodal from the start 13:24 - Minority Report, Iron Man, and building it for real 17:10 - Cloud, then agents, then what 18:24 - Knowledge Navigator rebuilt on real technology 19:38 - Gradient Bang and the primitives it exercises 20:52 - Closing --- Watch along with the corrected transcript, summary, timestamps and resources on this talk's official AIE page: https://ai.engineer/talks/LZuWZRze3MU-the-new-primitives-building-ai-native-software Join our upcoming AI Engineer conferences (see https://ai.engineer landing page): - AIEi Shanghai, November 5–6 — the first for meeting top Chinese labs and engineers - AIE CODE in SF, November 10–12 — the top AI Coding conference returns - AIEi Sydney, December 7–8 — the first AIEi run alongside NeurIPS 2026 in Sydney --- Canonical: https://liquidgold.cc/channel/aidotengineer/explore/video/the-new-primitives-building-ai-native-software-kwin-a6b0e760809e · Channel: [AI Engineer](https://liquidgold.cc/channel/aidotengineer.md) > Search chunk text is held until public-source provenance is verified. ## Document chunks > Missing: no stored document chunks are available.