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  If you’re using AI to just write code, you’re missing out. Two engineers at
  Every shipped six features, five bug fixes, and three infrastructure updates
  in one week—and they did it by designing workflows with AI agents, where each
  task makes the next one easier, faster, and more reliable. In this episode of
  AI & I, Dan Shipper interviewed the pair—Kieran Klaassen, general manager of
  Cora, our inbox management tool, and Cora engineer Nityesh Agarwal—about how
  they’re compounding their engineering with AI. They walk Dan through their
  workflow in Anthropic’s agentic coding tool, Claude Code, and the mental
  models they’ve developed for making AI agents truly useful. Kieran, our
  resident AI-agent aficionado, also ranked all the AI coding assistants he’s
  used. If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment,
  and share! Want even more? Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to
  prompting ChatGPT here:
  https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt. It’s usually only
  for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free. To hear more from
  Dan Shipper: Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe Follow him on X:
  https://twitter.com/danshipper Head to ai.studio/build to create your first
  app. Pitch is the AI presentation platform that helps professionals
  collaborate on, create, and deliver winning slide decks — all while staying on
  brand:
  https://pitch.com/use-cases/ai-presentation-maker/?utm_medium=paid-influencer&utm_campaign=every
  Timestamps: Episode start: 00:00:00 Introduction: 00:01:16 Why Kieran believes
  agents are turning a corner: 00:03:18 Why Claude Code stands out from other
  agents: 00:06:36 What makes agentic coding different from using tools like
  Cursor: 00:11:58 The Cora team’s workflow to turn tasks into momentum:
  00:15:20 How to build a prompt that turns ideas into plans: 00:23:07 The new
  mental models for this age of software engineering: 00:34:00 Why traditional
  tests and evals still matter: 00:39:13 Kieran ranks all the AI coding agents
  he’s used: 00:42:00 Links to resources mentioned in the episode: Try Cora, our
  AI email assistant: https://cora.computer/ Kieran Klaassen: @kieranklaassen
  Nityesh Agarwal: @nityeshaga The book that helps Nityesh form mental models to
  work with AI agents: High Output Management
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# Best of the Pod: Inside the Claude Code Workflow That 15× Their Output

If you’re using AI to just write code, you’re missing out. Two engineers at Every shipped six features, five bug fixes, and three infrastructure updates in one week—and they did it by designing workflows with AI agents, where each task makes the next one easier, faster, and more reliable. In this episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper interviewed the pair—Kieran Klaassen, general manager of Cora, our inbox management tool, and Cora engineer Nityesh Agarwal—about how they’re compounding their engineering with AI. They walk Dan through their workflow in Anthropic’s agentic coding tool, Claude Code, and the mental models they’ve developed for making AI agents truly useful. Kieran, our resident AI-agent aficionado, also ranked all the AI coding assistants he’s used. If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share! Want even more? Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here: https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt. It’s usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free. To hear more from Dan Shipper: Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe Follow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipper Head to ai.studio/build to create your first app. Pitch is the AI presentation platform that helps professionals collaborate on, create, and deliver winning slide decks — all while staying on brand: https://pitch.com/use-cases/ai-presentation-maker/?utm_medium=paid-influencer\&utm_campaign=every Timestamps: Episode start: 00:00:00 Introduction: 00:01:16 Why Kieran believes agents are turning a corner: 00:03:18 Why Claude Code stands out from other agents: 00:06:36 What makes agentic coding different from using tools like Cursor: 00:11:58 The Cora team’s workflow to turn tasks into momentum: 00:15:20 How to build a prompt that turns ideas into plans: 00:23:07 The new mental models for this age of software engineering: 00:34:00 Why traditional tests and evals still matter: 00:39:13 Kieran ranks all the AI coding agents he’s used: 00:42:00 Links to resources mentioned in the episode: Try Cora, our AI email assistant: https://cora.computer/ Kieran Klaassen: @kieranklaassen Nityesh Agarwal: @nityeshaga The book that helps Nityesh form mental models to work with AI agents: High Output Management

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