--- schema: 1 type: video title: 'MCP Servers: Teaching AI to Use the Internet Like Humans' description: >- If your MCP server has dozens of tools, it’s probably built wrong. You need tools that are specific and clear for each use case—but you also can’t have too many. This creates an almost impossible tradeoff that most companies don’t know how to solve. That’s why we interviewed Alex Rattray, the founder and CEO of Stainless. Stainless builds APIs, SDKs, and MCP servers for companies like OpenAI and Anthropic. Alex has spent years mastering how to make software talk to software, and he came on the show to share what he knows. We get into MCP and the future of the AI-native internet. If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share. Want even more? Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here: https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt. 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Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Start 00:01:14 - Introduction 00:02:54 - Why Alex likes running barefoot 00:05:09 - APIs and MCP, the connectors of the new internet 00:10:53 - Why MCP servers are hard to get right 00:20:07 - Design principles for reliable MCP servers 00:23:50 - Scaling MCP servers for large APIs 00:25:14 - Using MCP for business ops at Stainless 00:28:12 - Building a company brain with Claude Code 00:33:59 - Where MCP goes from here 00:41:10 - Alex’s take on the security model for MCP Links to resources mentioned in the episode: - Alex Rattray: Alex Rattray (@RattrayAlex), Alex Rattray - Stainless: https://www.stainless.com/ canonical: >- https://liquidgold.cc/channel/everyinc/explore/video/mcp-servers-teaching-ai-to-use-the-internet-like-hu-7951437f9e3d markdown: >- https://liquidgold.cc/channel/everyinc/video/mcp-servers-teaching-ai-to-use-the-internet-like-hu-7951437f9e3d.md llms: null parent: 'https://liquidgold.cc/channel/everyinc.md' channel: everyinc updated: '2026-10-24T01:07:12.486Z' language: null children: [] videoId: lctDoa5M880 durationSeconds: 3100 publishedAt: '2025-10-01T15:01:25.000Z' searchChunks: - ordinal: 0 text: null startSeconds: 0 endSeconds: 11 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=0' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 1 text: null startSeconds: 11 endSeconds: 74 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=11' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 2 text: null startSeconds: 327 endSeconds: 406 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=327' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 3 text: null startSeconds: 416 endSeconds: 506 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=416' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 4 text: null startSeconds: 517 endSeconds: 655 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=517' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 5 text: null startSeconds: 816 endSeconds: 899 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=816' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 6 text: null startSeconds: 909 endSeconds: 1040 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=909' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 7 text: null startSeconds: 909 endSeconds: 1040 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=909' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 8 text: null startSeconds: 1050 endSeconds: 1131 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=1050' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 9 text: null startSeconds: 1050 endSeconds: 1131 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=1050' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 10 text: null startSeconds: 1143 endSeconds: 1208 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=1143' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 11 text: null startSeconds: 1220 endSeconds: 1432 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=1220' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 12 text: null startSeconds: 1220 endSeconds: 1432 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=1220' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 13 text: null startSeconds: 1443 endSeconds: 1525 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=1443' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 14 text: null startSeconds: 1535 endSeconds: 1699 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=1535' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 15 text: null startSeconds: 1712 endSeconds: 1837 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=1712' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 16 text: null startSeconds: 1848 endSeconds: 1972 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=1848' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 17 text: null startSeconds: 1984 endSeconds: 2045 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=1984' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 18 text: null startSeconds: 2056 endSeconds: 2135 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=2056' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 19 text: null startSeconds: 2146 endSeconds: 2229 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=2146' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 20 text: null startSeconds: 2229 endSeconds: 2239 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=2229' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 21 text: null startSeconds: 2341 endSeconds: 2478 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=2341' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 22 text: null startSeconds: 2489 endSeconds: 2580 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=2489' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 23 text: null startSeconds: 2592 endSeconds: 2720 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=2592' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 24 text: null startSeconds: 2732 endSeconds: 2867 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=2732' heldReason: rights - ordinal: 25 text: null startSeconds: 2877 endSeconds: 2957 watch: 'https://liquidgold.cc/watch/lctDoa5M880?t=2877' heldReason: rights --- # MCP Servers: Teaching AI to Use the Internet Like Humans If your MCP server has dozens of tools, it’s probably built wrong. You need tools that are specific and clear for each use case—but you also can’t have too many. This creates an almost impossible tradeoff that most companies don’t know how to solve. That’s why we interviewed Alex Rattray, the founder and CEO of Stainless. Stainless builds APIs, SDKs, and MCP servers for companies like OpenAI and Anthropic. Alex has spent years mastering how to make software talk to software, and he came on the show to share what he knows. We get into MCP and the future of the AI-native internet. If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share. Want even more? Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here: https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt. It’s usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free. To hear more from Dan Shipper: - Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe - Follow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipper Ready to build a site that looks hand-coded—without hiring a developer? Launch your site for free at Framer.com, and use code DAN to get your first month of Pro on the house. Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Start 00:01:14 - Introduction 00:02:54 - Why Alex likes running barefoot 00:05:09 - APIs and MCP, the connectors of the new internet 00:10:53 - Why MCP servers are hard to get right 00:20:07 - Design principles for reliable MCP servers 00:23:50 - Scaling MCP servers for large APIs 00:25:14 - Using MCP for business ops at Stainless 00:28:12 - Building a company brain with Claude Code 00:33:59 - Where MCP goes from here 00:41:10 - Alex’s take on the security model for MCP Links to resources mentioned in the episode: - Alex Rattray: Alex Rattray (@RattrayAlex), Alex Rattray - Stainless: https://www.stainless.com/ Canonical: https://liquidgold.cc/channel/everyinc/explore/video/mcp-servers-teaching-ai-to-use-the-internet-like-hu-7951437f9e3d · Channel: [Every](https://liquidgold.cc/channel/everyinc.md) > Search chunk text is held until public-source provenance is verified. ## Document chunks > Missing: no stored document chunks are available.