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Two Seller Types: Which One Are You? | Private Equity Pt. 2…

Paul Giannamore discusses two dominant seller mindsets in private equity transactions: sellers who want a full cash-out exit and sellers who want to roll equity and keep growing. The session covers what full cash-out sellers prioritize, how equity rollover works and preserves upside, options for staying involved post-sale (operator, figurehead, or board member), why personal clarity on goals is a key step in deal preparation, and how the mindset shifts from headline price toward partnership with a larger company. # Channel Presentation Observations ## Creator Self-Identification - The presenter identifies himself by name: **"Again, I'm Paul Janimour. Thank you for joining me today."** - He speaks on behalf of a firm: **"Here at Potomac, we love to kill it for our clients"** — explicitly naming the organization as **Potomac**. ## Explicit Claims About the Channel/Firm - **Educational positioning**: "I think that education is the cornerstone which allows our clients to make the best decisions for themselves." - **Experience claim**: "This is a culmination of **20-plus years and billions of dollars in transaction with private equity**" — describing the basis for a downloadable resource on questions to ask PE firms. - **Service claim**: "We'll help you forge a plan, whether that exit is a year from now, 5 years from now, or 10 years from now… specifically tailored to your financial goals and objectives." - **Call to action**: Links to a contact form, LinkedIn, and a downloadable document are promoted ("I've put a link to the contact form in the description of this video"). ## Intended Audience - **Business owners considering a sale to private equity**: "If you own a business and you're being contacted by strategic acquirers, search funds, private equity firms, and you're trying to size up what you might do…" - Owners with several years of runway: "I might have 5 or 10 more years in me." - Owners facing capital constraints: "I don't have the same sort of access to capital that my competitors have… I might need to upgrade my financial systems and bring in a slightly better CFO." - Viewers are encouraged to share with peers: "feel free to share this masterclass series with somebody who you think might benefit from it." ## Claimed Scope / Content Domain - **M&A and private equity education**, framed as a "masterclass" series (title: "Private Equity Pt. 2 Masterclass Moment"; transcript references "the private equity survival guide" as prior content). - Topics covered in this video: seller psychology/types, PE deal structures (control sale vs. equity rollover), and post-sale roles. - **Announced future scope**: "We'll be doing the valuation masterclass, we'll be kicking off the buy-side M&A masterclass, and we've got a lot more to say on private equity." ## Demonstrated Presentation Patterns (Observable, Not Claimed) - **Advisory/broker tone**: the video blends teaching with a direct sales pitch ("take a step back and give us a call"). - **Educational structure**: typology framing ("there are two types of individuals who sell to a private equity firm") with concrete illustrative numbers (sell 70%, roll 20–40%, "$100 million… vs. a sliver of a $750 million business"). - **Lead-magnet marketing**: free downloadable ("questions you should ask private equity") used as an engagement device. - **Series-based content model**: explicit references to prior episodes and upcoming installments suggest an ongoing serialized format. # Delivery Observation: "Two Seller Types" Masterclass Moment ## Overall Tone & Register - **Conversational, plain-spoken teaching style**: industry jargon is used but immediately explained with everyday analogies. - > "we take the proverbial chips off the table, cash is in the bank" - > "the cash in the bag, walks away" - **Direct, second-person address**: consistently speaks to the viewer as "you," making the content advisory rather than purely descriptive. - > "Were you person one?" - > "The more you can understand about the nuances... the better you're going to be when it comes time to pull the trigger." ## Structural Teaching Habits - **Binary framing, then spectrum**: opens with a two-category taxonomy, then complicates one category as a spectrum. - > "Broadly speaking, there are two types of individuals who sell to a private equity firm." - > "sellers fall kind of on a broad spectrum." - **Concrete numeric examples**: repeatedly grounds concepts in specific figures. - > "It might be 20%, 30%, 40% into Newco." - > "6 months, might be 12 months, might be 18 months." - > "owning a business that's worth a $100 million 5 years from now... a sliver of a $750 million business 5 years from now." - **Contrast as a device**: sets up the payoff contrast — price vs. partner. - > "Unlike this first group of people where the focus is the headline price, in this group the focus isn't on the headline price, it is on the partner." - **Back-references to prior content** to build continuity: - > "as we talked about in the private equity survival guide" ## Recurring Vocabulary & Phrases - Repeated focus on **goals and objectives**: - > "What are your goals and objectives?" - > "specifically tailored to your financial goals and objectives." - Repeated use of **"private equity"** as the anchor term throughout. - Informal idioms: "take the cash and run," "pull the trigger," "kill it for our clients." ## Hypothetical Seller Voices - Frequently **voices the inner monologue of a hypothetical seller**, a consistent rhetorical habit: - > "Hey, I might have 5 or 10 more years in me." - > "I've been CEO, now I want to be a figurehead or a spokesperson." ## Persuasion & Promotional Close - The final stretch shifts to a **standard call-to-action structure** common in educational marketing content: firm credential, contact invitation, downloadable resource, upcoming content, sign-off. - > "Here at Potomac, we love to kill it for our clients" - > "This is a culmination of 20-plus years and billions of dollars in transaction" - > "Again, I'm Paul Janimour. Thank you for joining me today, and I'll see you on the next one." - **Scarcity/urgency phrasing** in the offer: - > "It's probably something you're not going to want to miss." ## Uncertainty Notes - Transient speech artifacts ("more interested interested," "on a on a") suggest an unscripted or semi-scripted delivery, but repetition across videos would be needed to confirm this as a stable pattern. - Only one video is available; claims about recurring phrases (e.g., "goals and objectives," "you're not going to want to miss") are observed within this clip only and may not be signature habits. # Position Record: "Two Seller Types: Which One Are You?" — Private Equity Pt. 2 Masterclass Moment **Speaker:** Paul Janimour (self-identified at end of transcript), presenting on behalf of Potomac (an advisory firm, per his statements). ## Core Claim: Two Types of Sellers to Private Equity Janimour asserts that, broadly speaking, there are two types of individuals who sell to a private equity firm: 1. **The person who "doesn't give a…"** (sentence deliberately cut off in transcript) 2. **The person who "cares very deeply"** about the business --- ## Type 1: The Seller Who Wants Out **Stated profile and reasoning:** - The sale is **"just a means to an end"** — a full change of control. - Example given: an aging owner who wants to retire, hires an advisor, runs a full competitive process; PE prevails as **highest bidder**. **Stated dynamics:** - The PE firm may decide it doesn't need the seller as CEO — it may bring in an **operating partner** or **recruit a new CEO**. - Seller takes all cash up front, or rolls a very small portion. - Transition period: **6, 12, or possibly 18 months**. - Outcome: "cash in the bag," walks away, no further worry about the business. **Janimour's advice for this type:** - PE "might work for you, but that's not where you want to focus your efforts." - Focus should be on a **competitive sale process**; if PE is the highest bidder, "boom, you're done." - For this group, the focus is **the headline price**. --- ## Type 2: The Seller Who Cares Deeply **Stated profile:** - Janimour claims "the majority of us" fall in this category. - PE is used as a tool to **diversify wealth** and **magnify it**. **Illustrative structure described:** - Sell 70% today — "chips off the table," cash in bank, deployable elsewhere. - Roll **20%, 30%, or 40%** equity into "Newco," in partnership with the PE firm. **Stated spectrum of seller preferences** (Janimour notes sellers "fall kind of on a broad spectrum"): - Some want **absolute control**, with PE as a "relative silent partner." - Others want to diversify their day-to-day role — e.g., move from CEO to **figurehead/spokesperson** while another operator runs the business. - Some want to **step back and be on the board**. **Stated profile of the ideal Type 2 candidate** (posed as a hypothetical self-assessment): - May have "5 or 10 more years" left. - Has an interesting business but **lacks access to capital** relative to competitors. - Lacks skill/experience for **add-on acquisitions** but knows potential targets. - May need upgraded financial systems and a stronger CFO (current one described as possibly "a glorified bookkeeper or an accountant"). **Stated upside claim:** - PE can accomplish these goals while diversifying wealth — e.g., instead of owning a business worth **$100 million in 5 years**, the seller might own "a sliver of a **$750 million** business 5 years from now." - For this group, **the focus is not headline price — it is the partner**. Janimour states this is the focus of the video/day's discussion. --- ## Overarching Advice - **Most important first step** (attributed to "the private equity survival guide" referenced by Janimour): determine **what you want** — your goals and objectives — at the onset. --- ## Promotional / Firm Statements Janimour makes the following claims about Potomac and himself: - "Here at Potomac, we love to kill it for our clients"; **education** is described as the cornerstone enabling clients to make the best decisions. - Understanding strategic acquirers, PE operations, and M&A psychology/tactics improves outcomes "when it comes time to pull the trigger." - Offers: a call/planning service for owners contacted by strategics, search funds, or PE (exits 1, 5, or 10 years out), tailored to financial goals. - Offers a downloadable resource: **"questions you should ask private equity,"** described as "a culmination of 20-plus years and billions of dollars in transaction with private equity." - Upcoming content: valuation masterclass, buy-side M&A masterclass, more on private equity. ## Qualifications to Preserve - The two-type framework is introduced with the hedge **"broadly speaking"** — presented as a simplification, not a taxonomy. - Janimour's illustrative numbers (70% sale, 20–40% roll, 6–18 month transition, $100M vs. $750M scenarios) are framed as **examples and hypotheticals**, not guarantees or case data. - The claim that "the majority of us" are Type 2 sellers is an assertion by Janimour without cited evidence. # Observation Record: Speaker Attribution & Provenance ## Video - **Title:** *Two Seller Types: Which One Are You? | Private Equity Pt. 2 Masterclass Moment* - **Video ID:** `01a168c7-c4d8-747c-9cdc-9c3e43abd0d1` ## Speakers & Roles - **Paul Janimour** — identified as the speaker via self-identification in the closing: *"Again, I'm Paul Janimour. Thank you for joining me today."* - Role: **Creator / host**, delivering a solo monologue ("Masterclass Moment" segment). - Affiliation: **Potomac** (firm referenced: *"Here at Potomac, we love to kill it for our clients"*). - No guests, narrators, or other speakers appear in the transcript. ## Referenced Sources & Prior Works - **"Private equity survival guide"** — referenced as prior discussion: *"as we talked about in the private equity survival guide."* - **"Questions you should ask private equity" download** — offered via link below the video; described as based on the speaker's *"20-plus years and billions of dollars in transaction with private equity"* (self-reported, unverified). - **Upcoming series** (announced, not sources): - Valuation masterclass - Buy-side M&A masterclass - Additional private equity content ## Third-Party Claims - **None** — no external sources, studies, individuals, or firms are cited. All assertions are the speaker's own illustrations (hypothetical seller archetypes, example figures such as a "$100 million" vs. "$750 million" business). ## Promotional Segments ⚠️ The final portion of the transcript is explicitly promotional: - Firm promotion: *"Here at Potomac, we love to kill it for our clients…"* - Call to action: contact form link in video description; direct LinkedIn contact offered. - Lead magnet: downloadable "questions you should ask private equity." - Upsell to future masterclass series and request to share the series with others. ## Availability & Limits - **Curated metadata:** none supplied beyond title/transcript. - **Comment availability:** not indicated. - Speaker's full name/role within Potomac beyond hosting: **not stated** in the source. - Timestamps: **not present** in the transcript; promotional segment boundary cannot be precisely located. Broadly speaking, there are two types of individuals who sell to a private equity firm. First is the person who doesn't give a Second is the person who cares very deeply. So, for the first person, the sale to a private equity firm is just a means to an end. It's an entire change of control. This might be an individual who's getting up in years and just wants to retire, hires an advisor, goes out to a full process, and the competitive process the private equity firm prevails as the highest bidder. Now, the private equity firm might look at this and say, "Well, we don't necessarily need this seller as CEO. We've got an operating partner we can bring in. We've got a CEO we can recruit." So, this person's able to sell the business, take all their cash out front, or roll a very small portion, transition over a relatively short period of time. So, it might be 6 months, might be 12 months, might be 18 months. But, at the end of the day, this person gets the cash in the bag, walks away, doesn't have to worry about the business. Now, the majority of us are folks who care very deeply about the business and might use private equity as a tool to not only diversify our wealth, but magnify that. So, for example, we might sell 70% of the business today. So, we take the proverbial chips off the table, cash is in the bank, we can deploy it elsewhere. Now, we've diversified the wealth that we have locked up in our business. And then we can roll some equity. It might be 20%, 30%, 40% into Newco. So, this is in partnership with the private equity firm. And in those cases, I find that sellers fall kind of on a broad spectrum. Some want absolute control of their business, and they want private equity come in as kind of a relative silent partner. Others are more interested interested in diversifying their day-to-day life. So, you know, I've been CEO, now I want to be a figurehead or a spokesperson. I want another operator to come in. And then some folks want to really just step back and be on board. And as we talked about in the private equity survival guide, the most important thing that you can do at the onset is determine what it is you want to do. What are your goals and objectives? Were you person one? You just want to take the cash and run? Then private equity might work for you, but that's not where you want to focus your efforts. You want to focus your efforts on a on a competitive sale process and if the private equity happens to be the highest bidder, then boom, you're done. But if you're looking at this saying, "Hey, I might have 5 or 10 more years in me. And I have built an interesting business, but I don't have the same sort of access to capital that my competitors have. I don't have the skill set and experience to do a lot of add-on acquisitions, but I know a lot of potential targets I could go out buy. Um I might need to upgrade my financial systems and bring in a slightly better CFO that I have right now, which is really just a glorified bookkeeper or an accountant. Private equity might be a phenomenal way for you to accomplish those goals all the while diversifying some of your wealth, as well as putting you in a position instead of owning a business that's worth a $100 million 5 years from now, might put you in a position to own a sliver of a $750 million business 5 years from now. Unlike this first group of people where the focus is the headline price, in this group the focus isn't on the headline price, it is on the partner. And that's what we're going to focus on today. Here at Potomac, we love to kill it for our clients and I think that education is the cornerstone which allows our clients to make the best decisions for themselves. The more you can understand about the nuances of how strategic acquirers work, how the operations of private equity firms work and the psychology and the tactics of an M&A transaction, the better you're going to be when it comes time to pull the trigger. If you own a business and you're being contacted by strategic acquirers, search funds, private equity firms, and you're trying to size up what you might do, take a step back and give us a call. We'll help you forge a plan, whether that exit is a year from now, 5 years from now, or 10 years from now. We'll help you think through a plan that is specifically tailored to your financial goals and objectives. So, please contact us directly. I've put a link to the contact form in the description of this video, and you can also contact me directly on LinkedIn. Again, you can click on the link below to download the questions you should ask private equity. This is a culmination of 20-plus years and billions of dollars in transaction with private equity, and these are the questions that I recommend clients ask private equity firms before they do a transaction. It's probably something you're not going to want to miss. Further, if you got value from this video, you're not going to want to miss what we have coming up here in the coming weeks. We'll be doing the valuation masterclass, we'll be kicking off the buy-side M&A masterclass, and we've got a lot more to say on private equity. And feel free to share this masterclass series with somebody who you think might benefit from it. Again, I'm Paul Janimour. Thank you for joining me today, and I'll see you on the next one.